What We Know about Bill Clinton's Relationship with Jeffrey Epstein
Hopefully Killary Doesn't Read This
Given that Jeffrey Epstein was seemingly “friends” with anybody and everybody in the upper reaches of the American political, scientific research, economic, and financial spheres, it’s no real surprise that he was close with America’s pervert president, Bill Clinton.
But, despite everyone knowing that Bill Clinton and Epstein were, at the very least, spotted together a good number of times, much else about their relationship is shrouded in mystery. Did Bill Clinton visit Epstein’s Pedo Island? Did Clinton fly on the Lolita Express? Why did Epstein have a picture of Clinton in what appears to be Monica Lewisky’s stained, blue dress inside his New York brownstone?
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Most of the time, people posting about their relationship get those details wrong. They mix up whether Clinton visited Pedo Island 26 times or flew on the plane more than two dozen times, for example, and the Regime and its legions of fact-checkers use those inaccuracies to, equally falsely, declare Bill cleared of any wrongdoing because his critics were wrong. It’s a moronic way to defend the Pervert President, but it shows why getting the facts right is important: in contentious issues like this one: getting the basic details wrong looks bad and is used by our enemies to discredit attacks on the Regime.
So, this article is about facts that are hardly unknown to those who have spent some time looking, but will hopefully help clear up the basic details of the Epstein and Clinton relationship for those who want to have those facts accessible in a condensed way.
NOTE: This is one of many articles we’ve done on Epstein. Check out our previous articles on Ghislaine Maxwell’s creepy charity, Epstein’s shocking connections to Bill Barr and his father, the plot of land Biden’s brother owned close to Epstein Island, how Trump stood up to Epstein, Bill Gates’ relationship with Epstein, and which intelligence service was likely backing Epstein. Relatedly, check out our article on Hillary Clinton and the catastrophe in Libya and the pedophiles America supported in Afghanistan.
Epstein and Clinton: The Island, The Plane, and the Painting
Did Bill Clinton Visit Epstein Island?
The common assumption when hearing that someone flew on Epstein’s plane is that the plane was headed to Little St. James, better known as Pedo Island. That’s untrue, as many of Epstein’s flights were benign, such as when he gave Trump and some of Trump’s family members a lift from Palm Beach to New York.1 But despite being an incorrect perception, it’s a common one, and so leads to false claims about Epstein and his acquaintances. One such false claim that gets thrown around frequently is that the 26 plane trips Epstein and Clinton took together show that Clinton visited Pedo Island 26 times.2
But, even if the number is false, is there a grain of truth buried there? Did Clinton visit Pedo Island, even if not the 26 times some mistakenly claim? The answer to that question is, as could be expected, a disputed grey area of Clinton’s relationship with Epstein.
On the “no” side, Clinton apparatchiks flatly deny that Clinton visited Little St. James or Epstein’s ranch.3 Clinton’s spokesperson, Angel Urena, for example, said, “[Bill Clinton has] not spoken to Epstein in well over a decade, and has never been to Little St. James Island, Epstein's ranch in New Mexico, or his residence in Florida."
On the other side, however, two witnesses claim they spotted former President Clinton on the Pedo Island.4 The main witness putting Clinton on the island is Virginia Roberts.
The Daily Mail, reporting on the matter, noted, “One of Epstein's former sex slaves, Virginia Roberts, claimed she saw Clinton on the island for a dinner held in his honor shortly after he left office, and stood by the claim when questioned under oath.”5 The Daily Mail, in a report on what Roberts (who now goes by Virginia Guiffre) claims, reported:6
Bill Clinton ‘strolled into the darkness’ with two girls while staying on pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s private Caribbean island, according to papers released by a judge.
The accusation comes from Virginia Roberts, one of Epstein’s prime accusers and was hidden in a book proposal she had written, that was among the huge number of documents released late Thursday night.
Roberts had previously said the 42nd president had been on Little St. James, the island where much of Epstein’s debauchery took place. Clinton denies ever being there.
Clinton stayed in a villa on the billionaire pedophile's private Caribbean island because he owed him 'a favor', Roberts told investigators in the newly unsealed documents.
In nine-year-old testimony that was only made public for the first time on Thursday, Roberts said Clinton visited the private Caribbean island of Little Saint James some time after his presidency ended in 2001.
Roberts told investigators that she, Epstein's ex-girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell and two other 'young girls' from New York were also on the island at the time.
You can read Guiffre’s full interview with investigators here, but her main claim is that she saw Clinton on the island with two young, unnamed women. But Guiffre isn’t the only one to claim that Clinton was on the island. A former worker on the island, Steve Scully, also claims that he saw Clinton and Epstein in an island villa together. The Daily Mail, reporting on his claim, said:7
Steve Scully, a 70-year-old former worker on the island, claims he saw Clinton sitting with the pedophile in the porch of the island's villa.
'This was a lie the first time it was told, and it isn't true today, no matter how many times it's repeated,' Clinton's spokesman said at the time.
Law & Crime reported on Mr. Scully’s claims as well. Its report also noted why he was on the island, how many times he was there, and the depth of information he has about what was going on at the island:8
Bill Clinton spent time on Jeffrey Epstein’s infamous island in the Caribbean, according to the dead pedophile’s onetime information technology (IT) contractor.
According to The Sun, Steve Scully will dish on the former president’s longstanding friendship with the late financier in the upcoming Netflix documentary series, Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich, which will be available to stream starting this Wednesday.
“I was there for maintenance on Jeffrey Epstein’s telecommunications and data equipment,” he says in the documentary, according to CBS News. “I was on the island probably 100 times. I was ultimately in every single building.”
Angel Urena, responding to Scully’s claim on Clinton’s behalf, said that Scully was lying: “This was a lie the first time it was told, and it isn’t true today, no matter how many times it’s repeated,” Urena told Law&Crime in an email.9
So, Bill Clinton and his side flatly deny that he was there, and just two witnesses claim saw the former president on Pedo Island. However, Guiffre has maintained that allegation under oath, so it could well be true.
Unfortunately, definitive proof one way or another is as yet unavailable, so one must decide whether to trust Guiffre and Scully or Bill “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” Clinton and Urena, who appears to have lied about the number of flights Clinton took with Epstein.10
Did Bill Clinton Fly on Epstein’s Plane?
Unlike the Pedo Island accusations, there is a plethora of evidence, including a direct admission from Bill Clinton’s spokesperson, that Bill Clinton flew with Epstein. The real dispute is not over that general fact, but rather the specifics: how many times they flew together, and to where?
Clinton admitted through his spokesperson that he flew on Epstein’s plane four times. “In 2002 and 2003, President Clinton took a total of four trips on Jeffrey Epstein’s airplane: one to Europe, one to Asia, and two to Africa, which included stops in connection with the work of the Clinton Foundation,” Clinton spokesman Angel Urena admitted in 2019.11
Further, Epstein’s pilot admitted that he saw Bill Clinton on Epstein’s plane among numerous other powerful figures. However, he also claimed that he never saw evidence of sexual activity on the plane and that diligent records of passenger names were not always kept.12 Even so, the flight logs of the Lolita Express, so named because it was allegedly used to ferry around underage girls, among other passengers, show that Bill Clinton flew on the plane and had his name recorded in the log.13
But what Clinton admitted to through Urena was probably just the tip of the iceberg. According to Fox News’ flight logs analysis, Bill Clinton took 26 trips on Epstein’s planes, not four. And he didn’t just visit Europe once, Asia once, and Africa twice, but rather the flight logs show Clinton and Epstein globetrotting to destinations such as Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore, China, Brunei, London, New York, the Azores, Belgium, Norway, Russia and Africa.14 The logs do not show, however, Clinton on the plane when it landed at St. Thomas, the closest airport to Pedo Island capable of handling it.15
Further, what the pilot claimed about the plane not being sexual hardly lines up with what an aviation consultant allowed to look through the plane found, He said, “When you get inside the aircraft, it’s a playground. Everything lays out to be a bed. That was kind of creepy. It’s not like the aircraft is set up for a business meeting — because it’s not. There’s no chairs for anyone to sit in, except for the lie-flat chairs.”16 Adding credence to the sexual implications of all the furniture turning into a bed is that Epstein victim Virginia Guiffre, when asked if there was sex on the planes, said, “It happened all the time on the planes.”17
And while Clinton normally had Secret Service supervision on the plane, there was at least one trip where Clinton was on the plane with Epstein and others and there were no agents with him. Fox News, reporting on that, noted:18
Official flight logs filed with the Federal Aviation Administration show Clinton traveled on some of the trips with as many as 10 U.S. Secret Service agents. However, on a five-leg Asia trip between May 22 and May 25, 2002, not a single Secret Service agent is listed.
What Was Up with that Weird Picture of Bill Clinton in Monica Lewinsky’s Dress?
The reason many people think of Bill Clinton when they think of Epstein’s high-profile friends isn’t just that he’s a former president, but alos that an exceeding creepy painting of him was hung in Epstein’s house. News on it came out in 2018, the year before Epstein “killed himself” in prison. The portrait is of Bill Clinton reclining sideways across a white chair while wearing what appears to be Monica Lewinsky’s infamous blue dress, though it could also be a dress Hillary Clinton wore in 2009.19 Check it out below (source: New York Post):20
Describing the painting’s prominent position in Epstein’s New York City brownstone, the New York Post reported:21
Sources told The Post on Wednesday that Epstein — who was facing sex trafficking charges before his alleged suicide — had the oil painting hanging in his home for all to see.
“It was hanging up there prominently — as soon as you walked in — in a room to the right,” a source said. “Everybody who saw it laughed and smirked.”
So, what was the purpose of the painting? Why was it there?
For one, it doesn’t appear to have been commissioned by Epstein for a specific purpose. Rather, if the grad student who painted it is to be believed, it was painted randomly and then sold to Epstein at an auction.22 Describing the background of the painting, the artist said, “In 2012, as a grad student at the New York Academy of Art, I painted pictures of Presidents Bill Clinton and Bush as part of my Master’s thesis. When the school put on a fundraiser at the Tribeca Ball that year, they sold my painting to one of the attendees. I had no idea who the buyer was at the time. As with most of my paintings, I had completely lost track of this piece when it was sold seven years ago. So it was a complete surprise to me to learn yesterday that it wound up in Epstein’s home.”23
That would mean he acquired it more or less randomly. But, even if it wasn’t commissioned for a purpose, he likely bought it with a purpose in mind.
The common assumption of the purpose behind the purchase is that Epstein used the painting to pressure and blackmail Clinton. Articulating that view, podcast host Joe Rogan said, “That painting is like: ‘I got you, bitch. You know he knows about it. Imagine if I knew some horrible dark secrets about you and you came over to my house and I have a giant painting of you. Right when you walk into the front door of you in a dress and I’m like, ‘Hey buddy.'”24
However, if Epstein truly did display the painting prominently for all to see, its blackmail potential would have been limited. If everyone visiting saw and knew about it, then he could hardly threaten to reveal it to people unless Clinton did his bidding.
But it could serve another, related purpose. By hanging there prominently, it could have served as a reminder to every visitor not only that Epstein had dirt on powerful people, but that he could gloat about having dirt on one of the most powerful men in the world. Artnet, articulating that other view, wrote, “It is certainly possible to read the painting as a reminder by Epstein to himself and to guests that he had dirt on powerful people. But then again, the common denominator of all of Epstein’s known decor, so far, is simply that he had a taste for the cartoonishly sadistic.”25
Little else is known about the painting, or to what purpose Epstein kept it prominently displayed in his home. However, the facts that he had it and people saw it are clear and well-attested.
Beyond the Basics: “They Were Like Brothers,” Bill Was Caught on Camera, The Woman Who Trusted Epstein Thanks to Bill, Epstein Visited the White House Frequently, and Other Miscellaneous Connections
In addition to those three main aspects of the Clinton-Epstein relationship that bounce around frequently, there are a few other damning bits of evidence that Bill Clinton was a good bit closer to Epstein than he and his spokesman would have you believe.
“They Were Like Brothers”: What Lady Victoria Hervey Had to Say about the Epstein-Clinton Relationship
Lady Victoria Hervey is a British socialite. She knew a number of the cretinous individuals involved in the Epstein operation, including Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Clinton, Ghislaine Maxwell, and Prince Andrew. Lady Hervey has a history of controversial comments about the horrific situation, and is a former girlfriend of Prince Andrew and defender of Ghislaine, so she’s hardly a straight arrow.26 But, as someone intimately involved with the top players of the scandal and was willing to call out the Covid madness,27 she has, in the past, spoken uncomfortable truths and so is likely worth listening to for learning about what went on with Epstein and the upper echelons of society.
Among those things she claimed, when speaking to the BBC for a documentary about Epstein, is that former President Bill Clinton and Epstein were close enough to be “like brothers.” That came when she discussed how Epstein and Ghislaine were able to draw the rich and famous to them, and how they loved having Prince Andrew around because he was a royal.
Speaking to the BBC on the subject, she said (emphasis added), "Clinton was definitely very close to Jeffrey. I don't know if you saw the paintings that were in Jeffrey Epstein's house? . . . So yeah, he was super close to Jeffrey Epstein. They were like brothers, you know, and he was close to Ghislaine as well."28
Was Hervey telling the truth? Perhaps. But her story is believable enough, given her closeness to those involved, to at least keep in mind when thinking about how close Epstein and Clinton were.
When Clinton was Caught on Camera with a Young “Masseuse”
On one of those trips on Epstein’s plane that Clinton admitted to through Mr. Urena, a charity trip to Africa, Bill developed a crick in his neck and complained about it. That then led to one of the most infamous pictures from the Epstein-Clinton relationship: a victim of Epstein’s predations rubbing Bill Clinton’s shoulders.
Here’s the image, published by the Daily Mail:29
So, what was going on there? A creepy but generally benign, so far as such things are, incident? Or evidence of Bill Clinton preying on a young woman? Here, despite the general creepiness of the photo, even the victim doesn't claim any wrongdoing. Here’s how the Daily Mail, which first reported on the matter, described the background of the photo and what the Epstein victim involved claimed:30
Clinton, then 56, had complained of having a stiff neck after falling asleep on Epstein's infamous private jet, nicknamed The Lolita Express, while on a humanitarian trip with the pedophile to Africa in September of 2002.
Maxwell, who is now in prison on sex trafficking charges, repeatedly encouraged Davies to give Clinton a massage while the group was refueling at a small airport in Portugal after flying in from New York.
After Maxwell's insistence, Clinton asked the twenty-something: 'Would you mind giving it a crack?'
Davies, who has claimed she was raped by Epstein several times after being recruited by Maxwell, said Clinton was a 'complete gentleman' on the trip.
Davies acted as an air stewardess on the flight and described being shocked when Clinton boarded the plane, saying he was 'charming and sweet'.
Davies, now in her early 40s, said of the massage pictures: 'Although the image looks bizarre, President Clinton was a perfect gentleman during the trip and I saw absolutely no foul play involving him.'
So, though the photo looks alarming at first glance, it’s probably one of the least bad parts of the Clinton-Epstein relationship, particularly if Davies is to be believed.
The Other Africa Incident
If the neck massage in Africa isn’t damning, the same can hardly be said about another story out of Africa involving Epstein and Clinton. That one comes from a bar in Cape Town, South Africa, and the woman involved claims that her experience with the two perverts was terrifying.
That woman is Juliette Bryant, and she claims to have met Epstein and Clinton after being taken to Epstein under false pretenses (an associate of his allegedly told her that he owned Victoria’s Secret). The Daily Beast, which first reported on Ms. Bryant’s story, had this to say:31
“That’s what gave Epstein credibility,” Bryant added. “The fact that he was with Clinton.”
According to Bryant, when she arrived at the restaurant, Clinton stood up to shake her hand and didn’t let go, even when he began speaking to someone else. “He just kept holding onto my hand,” Bryant told us. “It was like a dream. It was so bizarre.”
Epstein ensnared Bryant in his trafficking scheme not long after this Cape Town rendezvous under the guise of offering her modeling jobs in the U.S.
But moments after she set foot on American soil, Bryant was whisked off to the money manager’s home in the U.S. Virgin Islands, where he raped her repeatedly over two weeks before taking her to Palm Beach to continue to the assaults. The sexual abuse would continue at Epstein’s homes around the globe until 2004.
“I was completely conned,” Bryant said. “I wouldn’t go with some random man to the Caribbean. He seemed legitimate. Clinton gave him credibility.”
There’s much more to the story, which occurred on the same trip to Africa in which Clinton got the back massage from Davies, so reading the full Daily Beast article is worth doing, but that’s the basic gist of the story: Davies met Epstein, Clinton, and others, and ended up in the control of a vicious sexual abuser whom she claims to have trusted because of his association with the former president.32
So, did Clinton sexually abuse Bryant? Not so far as we know. But was his presence in Epstein’s orbit what led to a living hell for Ms. Bryant? According to her, yes. He’s who gave the pedophile credibility. His presence led to her making decisions that landed her on Pedo Island.
What’s more, after the hellish experience, Epstein threatened Bryant, telling her that he was involved in the CIA and could flex his power to ruin her life if she brought any claims against him. Reporting on that, The Daily Beast claimed:33
Before she left Florida, Epstein delivered an ominous warning—he said he worked for the CIA and was putting her and her family members on a “list.” A girl had once accused him of rape, he warned, so he planted drugs in her apartment and had her sent to prison.
She believed him, and it seems she believed his threats in no small part thanks to the relationship she saw he had with Clinton, one she claims he frequently played up in her presence.34
So, while Bill is not accused of abusing her, his association with Epstein, an association he did nothing to play down, was in no small part responsible for her getting involved in an abusive relationship with Epstein.
Epstein Visited the White House More than a Dozen Times
What was Clinton doing in the White House? Acquainting himself with Monica Lewinsky, for one. And socializing with Epstein, apparently, as White House Visitor logs obtained by The Daily Mail show that the president was visited by the pedophile at least 17 times over the course of Clinton’s first term alone.35
According to The Daily Mail’s report, Clinton’s first invitation to Epstein came just a month after his January 1993 inauguration, and Epstein visited on 14 separate days in total, visiting twice on the same day three different times.36
The Daily Mail adds that while the invitations came from Clinton’s senior “most senior advisers and aides,” the logs show that he was generally headed to the West Wing, meaning that “there was a strong likelihood he was meeting Clinton.”37
Further, The Daily Mail noted that the visits came when Epstein and Ghislaine were building their sex trafficking empire:38
And while Epstein's crimes did not become public knowledge until his arrest in 2006, the visits to the White House would have occurred during the same time frame that his alleged madam Ghislaine Maxwell is accused of recruiting underage girls for him.
Maxwell, 59, is accused of being Epstein's procurer between 1994 and 2004, a period of time during which the pedophile appeared to have been gaining the trust of the most powerful man in the nation.
So, while the visits remain clouded in mystery, it appears that Epstein was often meeting with Clinton and that he was doing so while he and Ghislaine were recruiting underage women for the Epstein horror show.
In addition to all the other connections, it should be noted that Epstein kept a signed photo of Bill Clinton by his dining table, threw a party in Clinton’s honor in 2003 (Clinton didn’t show up), had emails to get in touch with Mr. Clinton, and Clinton visited Epstein’s New York brownstone.39 So the two were close, with the logistics network for their getting and staying in touch being significant.
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Individually Frightening and Collectively Horrifying
Few of the details of the Epstein-Clinton relationship are damning on their own. Each is generally unpleasant and frequently frightening, to some degree. And even the ones that are less despicable once the surface is scratched, such as the massage photo, are still jolting to the senses: why, unless he shared in Epstein’s perversions, would Clinton have flown around the world with him, whatever the details of specific situations were?
But, if the details are sickening individually, they collectively are utterly horrifying and revolting. Together, the details of the situation appear to show that Epstein and Clinton were exceptionally close and went number of shady trips together that might have involved “inappropriate” activity to which Clinton’s credibility proved helpful to Epstein.
See, e.g., https://twitter.com/SociatUSA/status/1723440493571563757 (where a citizen journalist confronted Hillary Clinton over her husband’s relationship to Epstein and claimed, falsely, that Clinton traveled to Pedo Island 26 times. Clinton flew with Epstein 26 times, generally to various spots around the world, not St. Thomas, the airport closest to Little St. James able to accommodate the Lolita Express).
“Representatives of the former president have also rejected witness statements placing him on the Brit’s private Caribbean island, Little St. James, long said to be where Epstein held orgies with his young victims,” https://nypost.com/2023/07/19/jeffrey-epstein-used-painting-to-blackmail-bill-clinton-joe-rogan-claims/