Lack of incentive is big part. Why work hard when gubmint takes almost all you make? Why own property when the de facto ownership is in the hands of gubmint? Why try to start an enterprise when the vampire of gubmint has bled it dry before it even lived?
Futility.
One is likely to be more content getting off grid and becoming mostly self-sufficient. When all your efforts are spent sustaining yourself and achieving what you want in your life rather than involuntarily supporting an imperial system that steals all you make, your life-satisfaction is bound to be much higher.
The hollowing out of Detroit wasn't just economic policy gone wrong. It was the moment America decided communities were disposable, that the social fabric could be torn and retied without consequence. What happens to a civilization when it systemically destroys the places where memory lives?
This reminds me a lot of the fall of Baltimore. Baltimore used to be a top 10 city. In fact in the 1950s it's population neared 1 million. Then it was besieged by race riots. The ethnic, middle class, and upper class whites fled. It's a shell of what it used to be. It nearly has half the population it did in the 1950s. Civilization that took decades and centuries to build wiped away in a few years. I've heard it's better than it used to be, because of reinvestment and gentrification. I sure hope it continues on that trend.
newbie ta yer site--I did like the pitbull piece but....
Er.... yer a little off on yer history an' bein' Motown-born an' havin' spent mah younger years in that State of Wreckage livin' in Murder Capital of the USA...I'll tell ya what ya DON'T KNOW...what'cha got wrong.
Detroit was on the map long 'fore Henry Ford came inta the pitch'er tho indeed the Automobile Industry did help. That "beloved" Nazi (publisher of The International Jew & Distributor of the Protocols of Zion) was NOT responsible for the once-great "culcha" of Detroit. He did build a hospital but as fer cult-chur-all insty-2-shuns he could lay claim ta few EXCEPT fer "Greenfield Village" which remains a worthy historical site fulla Henry's collections of American-made cars, houses (historic) an' other products of our proud nation.
It was FORD who wuz responsible fer BRINGING in cheap black auto-workers to DayTwat (as we called it).(He also brought in po' white Southeners who formed what we called "Taylor Tucky" (as in Kentucky in Taylor, MI--all auto workers). I gotz nuthin' against blacks an' my childhood neibs were "mixed" an' A-OK even while the worst parts've DayTwat were a nightmare with poverty, burnin' buildin's & other such rot. HOWEVAH, I do like real vs WHITEwarshed hist'ry.
Henry Ford didn't wanna pay white white collar werkers their due so that influx of massive amounts of poor black workers was all on Henry (who wasn't necessarily a fan of black folks but he wuz CHEAP an' cheap labor from the SOUTH was purty much his idear...) Notably Ford was the LAST auto-maker ta unionize & he did it under duress... Wuther his bringin' in MASSIVE amounts of cheap black labor caused "problems" ('specially when the auto-biz started ta dry up cuz labor wuz cheaper elsewhar an' Ford & all the auto co's built plants off site...)--'er not--an' what "Civil Rights" brought ta feed the flame is an'nuther issue entirely but I CAN tell ya that "busing" (enforced...from the worst inner city projects to less frought parts of the city) caused troubles innumerable an' I know stories of the riots bringing entire neighborhoods down... I wouldn't doubt that the riots were part of larger agendas ta wreck Detroit with hopes of buildin' back bettah (not black-triggered--same as ANTIFA & BLM had other forces far more elite behind 'em). 'Nuther story fer a'nuther time...
Yer "Hero" Ford in Detroit has produced so many lemons that as a kid FORD stood for: Found-On-Road-Dead. His cars sucked. An' tho GM was also "all in" with the Nazis too an' also made tanks fer Hitler--at least those cars were half decent. Ford was indeed the brilliant founder of the assembly line but Detroit had MANY auto-makers an' his monopoly over the industry actually wrecked it per sum experts on the mattah, as he bought out the competition an' his success 'er failure became far more critter-cull. There were like 100 car co's once (Olds, Dodge, etc--see the moovie "Tucker" for ref. as well). Ford's monopoly (with GM) led in great part ta Detroit's downfall as the industry was no longer spread out an' once he & Gm farmed out labor to Mexico, later to China/aka Chynna--Detroit's economy TANKED. Blame FORD as much as yer celebratin' him....
ALSO...
A lotta folks BUILT the Detroit of yesteryear ya seem ta admire --by far NOT just Nazi Henry. JL Hudson would'a been at least as good a pick--best Dept. Stores ta rival even Macy's! I will say that Edsel ford apologized fer his hater-father an' both Ford & GM (long 'fore the 1960s) ended up hirin' some Jooish Exectives--make of that what'cha will. BUT the point was..when it came ta "culcha" Henry was not yer man an' (inconveniently) Da Joos played an oversized role in making Detroit (once) beautiful an' in bringin' in culcha & the ahrts.
Ya name the Fisher building an' cite some of the purdiest blds. in Detroit as well... That buildin' was designed by famed "say it ain't so" Jewish Architect Albert Khan (a guy Henry Ford & Father Coughlin--famous Nazi Radio Broadcaster-would have like to RID Detroit & our nation "OF" fwiw). That buildin' named after "Body by Fisher" company (a car co/chassis builder) was a Detroit Company (not founded by jews) but at the time the Fisher building was erected they were losin' money hand over fist an' Albert Fisher the patriarch wanted outta the bizness... So the Fisher boys (fils) who had hired a Jewish architect to design their new chassis-buildin' plant--ALSO sold their company to that architect. This man, the Jewish Louis Mendelssohn, hailed from Omaha and had built all the buildings for the main cultural insty-2-shuns there.
So.... again....Mendelssohn designed & built that plant owed by "Body by Fisher" an' then bought out the entire company, pullin' 'em outta bankruptcy. Louis (da joo) wuz owner of the biz when The Fisher Building was created. Ironically Mendelssohn didn't wanna design that beauty of a building (imho the purdiest one in the city!) himself but hired talented jooish architect Albert Khan ta do it. At that point Detroit needed a good theater so The Fisher Buildin' (otherwise a retail/office building) had a theater INCLUDED; the Mendelssohn fambly had built the Opera house in Omaha an' were "ahrts mavens" so even to date, the Fisher Theater Building has the biggest & best theater in Detroit.
Cass Gilbert--notta joo--the man who built the Woolworth building!--was responsible for the lovely Detroit Public Library--they brought him in for the job. Back then talent WAS brought in! (BTW did'ja know that Louis Kaufman, a Michigan fella, built the Empire State Building! https://tinyurl.com/rh3meyns
Jews, in part, founded The Detroit Symphony Orchestra too... first conductor, a jew named Ossip Gabrilowitch, who arrived thanks ta the support of his friends Gustav Mahler (jooish composer) & Sergei Rachmaninoff (aka Rachman, who might have had some jooish heritage too as he got kicked outta the Imperial Russian Musical Society in 1910 for defending a Jewish musician...). The Orchestra Hall that housed the symphony--was funded & built by Jews--it's the Max Fisher Music Center--Orchestra Hall built by C. Howard Crane working for joo Albert Kahn's firm. Also, dunno why but "Ford Radio Hour" featured Jewish Detroit Symphony Orchestra musicians such as pianist Artur (born Aaron) Schnabel (mebbe Henry didn't know who made da moosick?)
The second most beautiful theater there was also built by Albert Kahn, The Bonstell (it used to be a Temple / Tempel Beth El!). The conversion to a theater was funded by Eugene Sloman (a joo). Fun fact: Miss Bonstell was a homeschooled young lady from Rochester, NY an it was her theater "company."
Link to Mendelssohn the jewish architect who bought out Body by Fisher and commissioned the Fisher Building by Kahn
I should add that C. Howard Crane who worked under Kahn to design Orchestra Hall there also under Kahn designed Detroit's most beautiful movie palace--The Fox Theater, still standing and used for concerts and all manner of shows and yep, movies.
Another Jew, philanthopist (oil biz) Max Fisher (why a lotta Fishers in Detroit I dunno...) funded many philanthropies & arts foundations & buildings. Orchestra Hall is also called the "Max Fisher Music Center" due to his fundin' its construction.
Daryl Cooper (not sure why yer a fan but whatevah...) is the non-historian guy that said Hitler wasn't a baddie after all--hey, he just wanted ta "help" us jews. Yeah right.
Ford did NOT create the once glorious & grand Detroit. I had ancestors who came there in the 1870's, long 'fore Ford, and it was quite the place then--an' well prior to Ford's arrival. Train access plus bein' surrounded by (Great) Lakes made Detroit a hub for bringin in goods/wares/ supplies and Detroit was buoy'd by the railroad, stove, and ship building industries as part of the Industrial Revolution. Detroit's culcha & archtectural beauty were built in great part by the folks Ford loved to hate. May he rot in peas.
(I may write "funny" & in the vernacular but 'but 'bout much've this stuff I ain't jokin'...)
ps Ironically Ford had Kahn the joo build his Lamp Factory in 1924 AND his son hired Kahn to build his home, the Edsel and Eleanor Ford House (he vanted our people DEAD but not 'fore havin' 'em build purdy things fer 'im...)
1. the purdiest district of homes in Detroit was called the Boston - Edison District. Many've the BEST (purdiest) houses there were also built by jooish Albert Kahn includin' the 1910 "James Couzens House" (Couzens was the biggest share holder at Ford Motor Co, oh the irony--his son later became mayor) and the "Benjamin Siegel House" (B. Siegel's Department Stores, enjoyed by Detroit shoppers fer decades, were the 2nd biggest nice stores under JL Hudson's--Benjy was...a joo too--the stores were lovely). Sadly the neib has long been in disrepair but it was once the Park Avenue of Detroit...
2. while yer elevatin' Henry Ford on a pedestal, arguably the man that "made Motown" (an' the Motown Sound) was black music entrepreneur Berry Gordy!
Detroit had long been a good city fer moosicians (& radio too!) but Gordy put it on the map for a style that "grooved" the nation (Arguably rockers like Bob Seeger & Mitch Ryder & Fred Sonic Smith/MC5 also deserve a lotta recog..oh better not fergit Iggy Pop!). When the city got too narsty Gordy sadly moved ta LA but many dunno, the FIRST paid employee at Motown Records was a young jewish fella name Al Abrams -- he did all the PR fer the groups! I'll argue that Motown did as much as hater-Henry ta keep Detroit a place ta be reckoned with! (once he & others left it'd be wreck-conned with ;-( )
"Detroit had been the wealthiest city in not just America but the world,"
No, this is not true. New York and Chicago were much wealthier. Outside the US, London, Paris, Zurich, and other big cities were as well.
As for Detroit: your analysis is WAY out of date. Its population has increased for the last two years. Crime is dropping, and job growth and GDP growth are both positive. I still wouldn't live there, but your story is old news.
You are incorrect, it was the wealthiest city in America in the 1950s
and the fact that a devastating problem can be kinda fixed given the right circumstances over half a century later does not mean that people won’t make decisions based on that problem and what created it. Regardless of whether Greek Town is kinda ok now, Americans learned from the destruction of Detroit and other cities like it and stopped investing in urban life in the same way
"Detroit had been the wealthiest city in not just America but the world,"
Since this was your assertion originally and not mine, it's reasonable for you to provide your data now. Please tell us why you say that.
As for "Greek Town" being OK, this seems like an airy dismissal of the facts about Detroit. Who said anything about Greek Town? I mentioned some stats that are much more city-wide.
You obviously want to make points about America and urbanism, but you've picked a bad example. Baltimore, Cleveland, or Cincinnati might support your arguments a lot better. Even Chicago.
I think you can easily fix that paragraph in the interest of accuracy, without doing violence to your main argument:
Replace: "Such was one of the greatest tragedies in the history of urban civilization. Detroit had been the wealthiest city in not just America but the world, a center of high culture, technological progress, and industrial might all rolled into one, was utterly destroyed in the blink of an eye."
With: "Such was one of the greatest tragedies in the history of urban civilization. Detroit had been a wealthy city, with good jobs for blue-collar workers, a center of high culture, technological progress, and industrial might all rolled into one. The riots of 1967 dealt a heavy blow to all that, and the auto industry's decline only accelerated the process."
Lack of incentive is big part. Why work hard when gubmint takes almost all you make? Why own property when the de facto ownership is in the hands of gubmint? Why try to start an enterprise when the vampire of gubmint has bled it dry before it even lived?
Futility.
One is likely to be more content getting off grid and becoming mostly self-sufficient. When all your efforts are spent sustaining yourself and achieving what you want in your life rather than involuntarily supporting an imperial system that steals all you make, your life-satisfaction is bound to be much higher.
Yes, great points
Keep voting for those elected representatives!
The hollowing out of Detroit wasn't just economic policy gone wrong. It was the moment America decided communities were disposable, that the social fabric could be torn and retied without consequence. What happens to a civilization when it systemically destroys the places where memory lives?
This reminds me a lot of the fall of Baltimore. Baltimore used to be a top 10 city. In fact in the 1950s it's population neared 1 million. Then it was besieged by race riots. The ethnic, middle class, and upper class whites fled. It's a shell of what it used to be. It nearly has half the population it did in the 1950s. Civilization that took decades and centuries to build wiped away in a few years. I've heard it's better than it used to be, because of reinvestment and gentrification. I sure hope it continues on that trend.
newbie ta yer site--I did like the pitbull piece but....
Er.... yer a little off on yer history an' bein' Motown-born an' havin' spent mah younger years in that State of Wreckage livin' in Murder Capital of the USA...I'll tell ya what ya DON'T KNOW...what'cha got wrong.
Detroit was on the map long 'fore Henry Ford came inta the pitch'er tho indeed the Automobile Industry did help. That "beloved" Nazi (publisher of The International Jew & Distributor of the Protocols of Zion) was NOT responsible for the once-great "culcha" of Detroit. He did build a hospital but as fer cult-chur-all insty-2-shuns he could lay claim ta few EXCEPT fer "Greenfield Village" which remains a worthy historical site fulla Henry's collections of American-made cars, houses (historic) an' other products of our proud nation.
It was FORD who wuz responsible fer BRINGING in cheap black auto-workers to DayTwat (as we called it).(He also brought in po' white Southeners who formed what we called "Taylor Tucky" (as in Kentucky in Taylor, MI--all auto workers). I gotz nuthin' against blacks an' my childhood neibs were "mixed" an' A-OK even while the worst parts've DayTwat were a nightmare with poverty, burnin' buildin's & other such rot. HOWEVAH, I do like real vs WHITEwarshed hist'ry.
Henry Ford didn't wanna pay white white collar werkers their due so that influx of massive amounts of poor black workers was all on Henry (who wasn't necessarily a fan of black folks but he wuz CHEAP an' cheap labor from the SOUTH was purty much his idear...) Notably Ford was the LAST auto-maker ta unionize & he did it under duress... Wuther his bringin' in MASSIVE amounts of cheap black labor caused "problems" ('specially when the auto-biz started ta dry up cuz labor wuz cheaper elsewhar an' Ford & all the auto co's built plants off site...)--'er not--an' what "Civil Rights" brought ta feed the flame is an'nuther issue entirely but I CAN tell ya that "busing" (enforced...from the worst inner city projects to less frought parts of the city) caused troubles innumerable an' I know stories of the riots bringing entire neighborhoods down... I wouldn't doubt that the riots were part of larger agendas ta wreck Detroit with hopes of buildin' back bettah (not black-triggered--same as ANTIFA & BLM had other forces far more elite behind 'em). 'Nuther story fer a'nuther time...
Yer "Hero" Ford in Detroit has produced so many lemons that as a kid FORD stood for: Found-On-Road-Dead. His cars sucked. An' tho GM was also "all in" with the Nazis too an' also made tanks fer Hitler--at least those cars were half decent. Ford was indeed the brilliant founder of the assembly line but Detroit had MANY auto-makers an' his monopoly over the industry actually wrecked it per sum experts on the mattah, as he bought out the competition an' his success 'er failure became far more critter-cull. There were like 100 car co's once (Olds, Dodge, etc--see the moovie "Tucker" for ref. as well). Ford's monopoly (with GM) led in great part ta Detroit's downfall as the industry was no longer spread out an' once he & Gm farmed out labor to Mexico, later to China/aka Chynna--Detroit's economy TANKED. Blame FORD as much as yer celebratin' him....
ALSO...
A lotta folks BUILT the Detroit of yesteryear ya seem ta admire --by far NOT just Nazi Henry. JL Hudson would'a been at least as good a pick--best Dept. Stores ta rival even Macy's! I will say that Edsel ford apologized fer his hater-father an' both Ford & GM (long 'fore the 1960s) ended up hirin' some Jooish Exectives--make of that what'cha will. BUT the point was..when it came ta "culcha" Henry was not yer man an' (inconveniently) Da Joos played an oversized role in making Detroit (once) beautiful an' in bringin' in culcha & the ahrts.
Ya name the Fisher building an' cite some of the purdiest blds. in Detroit as well... That buildin' was designed by famed "say it ain't so" Jewish Architect Albert Khan (a guy Henry Ford & Father Coughlin--famous Nazi Radio Broadcaster-would have like to RID Detroit & our nation "OF" fwiw). That buildin' named after "Body by Fisher" company (a car co/chassis builder) was a Detroit Company (not founded by jews) but at the time the Fisher building was erected they were losin' money hand over fist an' Albert Fisher the patriarch wanted outta the bizness... So the Fisher boys (fils) who had hired a Jewish architect to design their new chassis-buildin' plant--ALSO sold their company to that architect. This man, the Jewish Louis Mendelssohn, hailed from Omaha and had built all the buildings for the main cultural insty-2-shuns there.
So.... again....Mendelssohn designed & built that plant owed by "Body by Fisher" an' then bought out the entire company, pullin' 'em outta bankruptcy. Louis (da joo) wuz owner of the biz when The Fisher Building was created. Ironically Mendelssohn didn't wanna design that beauty of a building (imho the purdiest one in the city!) himself but hired talented jooish architect Albert Khan ta do it. At that point Detroit needed a good theater so The Fisher Buildin' (otherwise a retail/office building) had a theater INCLUDED; the Mendelssohn fambly had built the Opera house in Omaha an' were "ahrts mavens" so even to date, the Fisher Theater Building has the biggest & best theater in Detroit.
Cass Gilbert--notta joo--the man who built the Woolworth building!--was responsible for the lovely Detroit Public Library--they brought him in for the job. Back then talent WAS brought in! (BTW did'ja know that Louis Kaufman, a Michigan fella, built the Empire State Building! https://tinyurl.com/rh3meyns
Jews, in part, founded The Detroit Symphony Orchestra too... first conductor, a jew named Ossip Gabrilowitch, who arrived thanks ta the support of his friends Gustav Mahler (jooish composer) & Sergei Rachmaninoff (aka Rachman, who might have had some jooish heritage too as he got kicked outta the Imperial Russian Musical Society in 1910 for defending a Jewish musician...). The Orchestra Hall that housed the symphony--was funded & built by Jews--it's the Max Fisher Music Center--Orchestra Hall built by C. Howard Crane working for joo Albert Kahn's firm. Also, dunno why but "Ford Radio Hour" featured Jewish Detroit Symphony Orchestra musicians such as pianist Artur (born Aaron) Schnabel (mebbe Henry didn't know who made da moosick?)
The second most beautiful theater there was also built by Albert Kahn, The Bonstell (it used to be a Temple / Tempel Beth El!). The conversion to a theater was funded by Eugene Sloman (a joo). Fun fact: Miss Bonstell was a homeschooled young lady from Rochester, NY an it was her theater "company."
Link to Mendelssohn the jewish architect who bought out Body by Fisher and commissioned the Fisher Building by Kahn
http://www.e-nebraskahistory.org/index.php?title=Louis_Mendelssohn_(1854-1935),_Architect
Kahn!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Kahn_(architect)?ysclid=mjx6a46jc1118107048
I should add that C. Howard Crane who worked under Kahn to design Orchestra Hall there also under Kahn designed Detroit's most beautiful movie palace--The Fox Theater, still standing and used for concerts and all manner of shows and yep, movies.
Another Jew, philanthopist (oil biz) Max Fisher (why a lotta Fishers in Detroit I dunno...) funded many philanthropies & arts foundations & buildings. Orchestra Hall is also called the "Max Fisher Music Center" due to his fundin' its construction.
Daryl Cooper (not sure why yer a fan but whatevah...) is the non-historian guy that said Hitler wasn't a baddie after all--hey, he just wanted ta "help" us jews. Yeah right.
Ford did NOT create the once glorious & grand Detroit. I had ancestors who came there in the 1870's, long 'fore Ford, and it was quite the place then--an' well prior to Ford's arrival. Train access plus bein' surrounded by (Great) Lakes made Detroit a hub for bringin in goods/wares/ supplies and Detroit was buoy'd by the railroad, stove, and ship building industries as part of the Industrial Revolution. Detroit's culcha & archtectural beauty were built in great part by the folks Ford loved to hate. May he rot in peas.
(I may write "funny" & in the vernacular but 'but 'bout much've this stuff I ain't jokin'...)
ps Ironically Ford had Kahn the joo build his Lamp Factory in 1924 AND his son hired Kahn to build his home, the Edsel and Eleanor Ford House (he vanted our people DEAD but not 'fore havin' 'em build purdy things fer 'im...)
pps Couple qwik notes...
1. the purdiest district of homes in Detroit was called the Boston - Edison District. Many've the BEST (purdiest) houses there were also built by jooish Albert Kahn includin' the 1910 "James Couzens House" (Couzens was the biggest share holder at Ford Motor Co, oh the irony--his son later became mayor) and the "Benjamin Siegel House" (B. Siegel's Department Stores, enjoyed by Detroit shoppers fer decades, were the 2nd biggest nice stores under JL Hudson's--Benjy was...a joo too--the stores were lovely). Sadly the neib has long been in disrepair but it was once the Park Avenue of Detroit...
2. while yer elevatin' Henry Ford on a pedestal, arguably the man that "made Motown" (an' the Motown Sound) was black music entrepreneur Berry Gordy!
Detroit had long been a good city fer moosicians (& radio too!) but Gordy put it on the map for a style that "grooved" the nation (Arguably rockers like Bob Seeger & Mitch Ryder & Fred Sonic Smith/MC5 also deserve a lotta recog..oh better not fergit Iggy Pop!). When the city got too narsty Gordy sadly moved ta LA but many dunno, the FIRST paid employee at Motown Records was a young jewish fella name Al Abrams -- he did all the PR fer the groups! I'll argue that Motown did as much as hater-Henry ta keep Detroit a place ta be reckoned with! (once he & others left it'd be wreck-conned with ;-( )
You ever tried not writing like a faggot?
"Detroit had been the wealthiest city in not just America but the world,"
No, this is not true. New York and Chicago were much wealthier. Outside the US, London, Paris, Zurich, and other big cities were as well.
As for Detroit: your analysis is WAY out of date. Its population has increased for the last two years. Crime is dropping, and job growth and GDP growth are both positive. I still wouldn't live there, but your story is old news.
You are incorrect, it was the wealthiest city in America in the 1950s
and the fact that a devastating problem can be kinda fixed given the right circumstances over half a century later does not mean that people won’t make decisions based on that problem and what created it. Regardless of whether Greek Town is kinda ok now, Americans learned from the destruction of Detroit and other cities like it and stopped investing in urban life in the same way
"Detroit had been the wealthiest city in not just America but the world,"
Since this was your assertion originally and not mine, it's reasonable for you to provide your data now. Please tell us why you say that.
As for "Greek Town" being OK, this seems like an airy dismissal of the facts about Detroit. Who said anything about Greek Town? I mentioned some stats that are much more city-wide.
You obviously want to make points about America and urbanism, but you've picked a bad example. Baltimore, Cleveland, or Cincinnati might support your arguments a lot better. Even Chicago.
I think you can easily fix that paragraph in the interest of accuracy, without doing violence to your main argument:
Replace: "Such was one of the greatest tragedies in the history of urban civilization. Detroit had been the wealthiest city in not just America but the world, a center of high culture, technological progress, and industrial might all rolled into one, was utterly destroyed in the blink of an eye."
With: "Such was one of the greatest tragedies in the history of urban civilization. Detroit had been a wealthy city, with good jobs for blue-collar workers, a center of high culture, technological progress, and industrial might all rolled into one. The riots of 1967 dealt a heavy blow to all that, and the auto industry's decline only accelerated the process."
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/separating-truth-myth-so-called-golden-age-detroit-auto-industry-180972139/
Lol, You’re A BAPNigger.
China also does not allow immigration.
China Fakes Everything.