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Dan G.'s avatar

One of the issues that was not brought up on this podcast is the bureau of land management. Out west most of the land and ranchlands are not owned by private individuals, but are owned by Uncle Sam and are managed by BLM. You have to secure a grazing permit to graze the land.

When it comes to “new equipment” we have a problem with overly complicated and luxurious equipment designed to meet ridiculous emission standards. If you buy a utility tractor that’s over 75 hp, it comes with a blue deaf or diesel particulate filter. This requires you to add BlueDef to your tractor and regenerate the particulates leading to self-destruction of the tractor. It is the same issue with trucks. They’ve gotten larger, more complicated to work on, and significantly more expensive.

There are many other factors that distort the agricultural markets as well….

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Dan G.'s avatar

Another issue that I think is pretty important relates to what Jim Kunstler talks about…. Suburbia has destroyed immense swathes of agricultural land and communities. All the land north of Dallas, Texas used to be agricultural land. You go there now and it’s all brand new shopping centers that are chains and planned housing with an occasional hay field in the middle. It is dystopian. I’m highly critical of Europe, but we need to kill the suburbia dream and have walkable communities with local trades such as a baker and butcher. The splintering of tracks of land will destroy the future possibility of ever piecing prime agricultural land back together again unless there is a massive reversion to living preferences. Even manufacturing is rarely “in the city”, it is generally on the outskirts of a city encouraging suburban sprawl. When I went and visited the Porsche museum in Stuttgart, Germany, what stood out to me is many German workers walked to the plant. This was similar with Mercedes and Bosch. I myself was able to walk from a house I was staying at to the plant in 15 minutes.

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The American Tribune's avatar

This is true, but suburbia is essentially an immune response to the black crime of the 60s and 70s that resulted in the ethnic cleansing of urban white neighborhoods; so you have to address that, which would take Singapore-style punishment of crime, to obviate the essentially defensive nature of suburbia (you can't walk there, there's no public transport, often there's a gate, etc.)

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The American Tribune's avatar

Interesting, thank you. I’ll have to ask the guys about that

Is the leasing cost more expensive than the normal rent (~$45/acre, from what I understand) private landowners charge?

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Dan G.'s avatar

I imagine it varies based on the AUM. I believe it is actually cheaper than $45 per acre but on the flipside a lot of this is in very low forage areas. Nevada, Utah, Arizona, Idaho, etc. do not have the same stocking rates as even places like eastern Texas. Often times you need thousands if not tens of thousands of acres to run a just handful of cows.

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Phillip McGiffin's avatar

Why don't they use their real names? Are they ashamed to be associated with this project?

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The American Tribune's avatar

No, it's just the accounts they built up over time to promote it, with themes that go along with the names, and now it's what they're better known by

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Phillip McGiffin's avatar

It's weird and comes off like they are hiding something.

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