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Alexander Scipio's avatar

Where do we sign up?

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The American Tribune's avatar

If the administration gets serious, I suspect ICE will be the agency used to crack down on the left, since it’s full of loyalists

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Caelenor Dragontamer's avatar

And if they don't what then?

Give up and retreat?

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The American Tribune's avatar

No, it means the solution is to privately network, community build, and harden your life against the problem rather than joining ICE or something

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Quarrelsome Life's avatar

Ireland's post-WW2 multicultural social engineering experiment started much more recently and so, unlike the US, we are not really seeing the electoral fruits yet. However, things are going to hell at high-speed in other ways.

The "All white people are racist PayPal me" vibe is regime catnip. Moreover, no amount of rapes, missing kids, stabbings, or jihadis seem to be enough for the "Progressive" blob to change course. Per capita crime data from neighbours like Germany, Denmark, Sweden and the UK all paint a similiar picture.

Turning Ireland into a gender fluid Lebanon is hardly what our ancestors had in mind when struggling for centuries under the British yoke.

https://quarrelsomelife.substack.com/p/spoiling-the-vote-in-vandalised-ireland

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The American Tribune's avatar

Ugh. So sad seeing another European nation go the wrong way

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Caelenor Dragontamer's avatar

Other than joining ICE, the only thing that can be done is to remove every cowardly republican we can.

That requires voting and local activism which so many on the "right" have eschewed for to long.

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Gilgamech's avatar

You are generous to say Jay Jones was joking when he specifically said at the time he was NOT joking. But yeah sign me up too.

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The American Tribune's avatar

Ah perhaps I should rephrase that. I meant joked as in he was laughing with glee at the idea, not that he was unserious. Poor word choice on my part

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Jordan Orlando's avatar

You want to deport the new mayor of New York for his “un-American beliefs”? What McCarthyite fantasy world are you living in? Doesn’t your side crow about “freedom” every chance you get?

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The American Tribune's avatar

The 1924 Immigration Act fixed America by deporting thousands of scum like Mamdani for the same reason. Those who aren’t American shouldn’t be here

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Jordan Orlando's avatar

My father was born in Italy — his father became a US citizen. Should I be deported?

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Rocío Matamoros's avatar

Since you bring your grandfather into this, it's not impertinent of me to ask:

Did he come to the US as an anarchist agitator, intent on causing maximum damage to the society that had generously accepted him?

Or did he come to the US seeking to become an American, seeking to better himself while contributing in his own small way to the society that hosted him? Did he, perhaps, see combat with the US army?

I think you can work out from these options whether your grandfather deserved to be deported.

As for your own deportation, there is zero chance of ICE arresting you, so your victimhood fantasy will have to go unfulfilled. But if you hate the US, there's nothing to stop you from voluntarily deporting yourself to the land of your forefathers. Then again, you might find yourself equally unhappy in the Italy of Georgia Meloni.

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Jordan Orlando's avatar

My question about my grandfather and myself was meant to pin down the criteria — not because I have any kind of “victimhood fantasy.” (I don’t want to be arrested or deported.) ICE agents have “zero chance” of arresting me because of the color of my skin, is, clearly, what you’re getting at, and I agree…but we both know that’s not an adequate criteria for arrest or deportation unless you radically alter the Constitution. The bill of rights clearly states that any person (not any citizen, any person) has a right to trial, and the Miranda Decision makes it illegal to round people up without cause.

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Rocío Matamoros's avatar

I am "getting at" no such thing. Like most liberals, you assume that those of unlike mind must be of low intelligence. ICE is not randomly arresting anyone who is not white.

Ask yourself:

1. Did your grandfather arrive in the US at Ellis Island (or other legitimate point of entry) and satisfy the immigration requirements of the day?

Or

2. Did he sneak over the border from Mexico or Canada? Or sneak onshore? Or ride the ice floes from Russia to Alaska? etc.

If and only if 2, then he would have been liable for immediate deportation, regardless of your criterion of skin color.

Assuming the answer is 1, ask yourself further:

1. Did your grandfather, as a legal resident alien in the US, seek gainful employment, set up a business, or live off savings brought from Italy?

Or

2. Did your grandfather engage in crime, whether armed robbery, organizing riots, rape, murder, terrorism etc.?

Again, if and only if 2. your grandfather would have earned imprisonment, execution and/or deportation, regardless of your criterion of skin color.

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Jordan Orlando's avatar

There are internationally agreed-upon asylum laws.

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The American Tribune's avatar

Yes

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Jordan Orlando's avatar

He’s a US citizen.

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The American Tribune's avatar

Naturalized citizens can and should be denaturalized and deported when they hold unamerican views. This is what the 1924 act accomplished

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Jordan Orlando's avatar

Who determines what are “un-American views”?

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