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Modern Caesar's avatar

I often love seeing old pictures of my city before WWII. You can tell it was a different era. Even the poorest suburbs looked way better than modern downtowns with glass boxes. Beauty all around the city, everyone dressed like attending a dinner with the king. Now, after WWII, many destroyed buildings were replaced by Soviet brutalist ones. And when cities get infected like that, many people lose respect both for the country and themselves. There is no longer attachment to the city or the country.

The American Tribune's avatar

Very well put. Spot on

ImanAzol's avatar

The first video, of the 1950s, could be the church festival I went to at age 5 in 1972. It was still like that in parts of the UK. We left a few years after that, because my parents already saw the decline.

The American Tribune's avatar

It is so sad to see and hear of the decline

The magnitude of it really becomes obvious once it’s put in the video or photo form, I think

ImanAzol's avatar

I did a venn diagram meme of Pink Floyd, Another Brick in the Wall; David Bowie, Big Brother; Chris Rea, The Road to Hell; Judas Priest, Electric Eye; and Dire Straits, Industrial Disease.

They all saw it coming.

The Brothers Krynn's avatar

It's this stuff that radicalised me more than anything else. It is very embittering.

Stuart's avatar

Excellent article. You didn't mention the music, which has also degenerated terribly.

To be fair, the Palais Garnier has never been equaled by any civilization, ever. I think that may be part of the problem. European culture achieved such a height that it then despaired even of maintaining it, much less advancing its excellence. After the Garnier, who really has the courage to build the next theater? You have to pretend that plainer is better.

I have said before that Western art peaked at the 1895 premier of Swan Lake at the Maryinsky Theater in St. Petersburg. The next step forward from that pinnacle was down.

The American Tribune's avatar

Ah yes, the degeneration of music is a great point. It’s perhaps the most degraded at this point

Michael's avatar

As somebody who agrees conceptually but is guilty of the same tendency of practicality and comfort / conformity, I'd appreciate some advice on how to bridge the two. Is it by starting in my own home with architecture? If so, where do I even start if I'm in an apartment building that is guilty of that modern monochromatic styling? Or is it in how I dress? Is there a guide to how to dress well in the traditional sense you are referencing, because i'm not going to wear a suit out to the bar. It would be helpful to have some guidelines instead of trying to figure it all out on my own

The American Tribune's avatar

This is a good idea for an article

A good way to start is with dress. Agreed on not wearing a suit to the bar. I’ve tried to make it a habit to, unless exercising in the heat of summer: 1) always wear a collared shirt, 2) tucked into chinos or slacks, 3) with a matching leather belt and shoes, and 4) with a nice looking coat like a Barbour or sport coat if it’s cold. That almost never looks ridiculous, but is a step above the slop world. Generally just avoiding wearing exercise clothing or tshirts where inappropriate is a good step

From there I think the next easiest step is finding ways to add a bit of refined beauty around the house that don’t break the bank. Used leather bound books are typically cheaper than a new hardback (for the same book), and look nicer and last longer. A used oil painting can be gotten for not that much; often it looks better than a print

Little things like that are a good way to start, I think

Jeff's avatar

I mostly agree with you but I would make two points- As for architecture, yes those old buildings are gorgeous and should be kept and maintained for as long as possible and I’d like to see more of that influence in new construction when possible too. But the upkeep and maintenance on those buildings can get very expensive. I own a commercial roofing company and we have some of those beautiful older buildings in our customer base but they can be a nightmare when it comes to repairs or diagnosing problems. And it seems like the owners continually lurch from one expensive upkeep project on one part of their buildings to another. So I do understand to a certain degree the impulse to move to less attractive buildings that are less expensive to build and maintain. As for the way people dress, while it’s nice to see old films showing people walking around in suits and elaborate dresses I can’t imagine walking around like that during the summer. To be sure though, we have gone way too far in the opposite direction, a lot of people seem to have no pride in their appearance at all

The American Tribune's avatar

Both good points as well

As to point 1, one thing that comes up is many of these older stone buildings generally don't require a ton of maintenance, but what they do require is more expensive because there are so few of them. Were we to care more about it and build more like them, employing more workmen, perhaps that would be ameliorated somewhat. But yes this is a very fair point

As to point 2, also true, but there are still things people can do to look better even in very hot environments. Being in shape and wearing a polo shirt with slacks, or something of that sort, as a guy, is a great first step that imparts at least some sense of care

I appreciate your points! Thanks for the thoughtful response

Eamonn McKeown's avatar

From what I’ve read elsewhere it shouldn’t be even that technically difficult. Those monstrous carbuncles can just as easily be built or retrofitted with beautiful classical facades. Nothing about the skeleton precludes it apparently other than the will.

Laurence Temojin's avatar

Modern architecture is quite boring. Love the old buildings.

The American Tribune's avatar

Agreed. Modernism is boring and brutalism is horrifying

71kramretaW91's avatar

Idolaters worship Images once again

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The American Tribune's avatar

Hey, sorry I was trying to reply to your comment and accidentally deleted it instead of deleting mine when I posted it incorrectly

I quite apologize for that, it was unintentional. Your point was a good one. Sorry again, I can’t figure out how to reverse it.